Having entered my 30s recently, I have started to learn why they might actually be a man’s prime in terms of Game and Dating. It was long believed and said by guys like Rollo but I wanted to add my input around it. However, my input is going to mention both the pros and cons of your thirties as a guy as well as why even though they are prime years for most men, there are drawbacks.
To start off, most men in their 30s do have a lower ceiling when it comes to sleeping with lots of hot girls. At least in most cases.
I am coming at it from an American and Western European perspective here. If your goal is to get laid a lot, there are some drawbacks I want to mention. Let me put it to you this way.
In an ideal world, a guy in his late teens to the age of 25 is, in most cases, going to have a higher ceiling for sleeping with lots of hot girls. There are a few reasons for this:
College and the fact that he is around a lot of them constantly (if he goes to a party school)
It is more socially acceptable for him to sleep around and be a f*ckboy
He likely has more testosterone and a higher sex drive
He has a large swath of women in the college-aged demographic who won’t hold his age against him
A lot of older women, namely cougars, will get with him
But again, this is not most men in the 18-25 or even 18-30 age range. These are usually your “Chads”. A few things need to happen for a guy to be in this category:
He needs to have laid back parents that practically pay for his college
He needs to have laid back parents that let him party, drink, and play sports
He needs to go to a giant party school
He needs to usually come from a wealthy family that can help him afford his party life at a young age
He needs to be in a culture where casual sex is celebrated and accepted (Western Europe in some places and more socially liberal parts of America)
He needs to peak in his looks fast (tall, muscular, etc.)
In other words, 95% or so of men will never even qualify for this. The reality for most men in that age range is:
Likely trying to pay for school
No rich parents to fund their 4-year vacation called college
Dealing with trauma from overbearing parents or just a lack of a parent
Trying to figure out life
Trying to figure out a way to be independent and put a roof over their head
Likely working a few odd jobs, in some toxic work environments, and trying to find their footing in the world
Trying to save enough money so they can travel and have more free time
Likely working a lot and not trying to get fired (Corporate America)
As you can see, this does not leave room to go out and just get laid all the time or even spend as much time on Game. This is also why so many guys who throw away their 20s on Game are often broke, unemployed, and trying to get their lives together in their 30s.
The 30s are when most men slowly start to figure it out.
By your 30s, you have likely:
Become financially independent so you are not relying on your parents
Handled a lot of your trauma and PTSD from your youth
Learned enough Game to talk to women
Found more of your identity
Moved to a city that fits your style
Saved enough money to travel more
For the vast majority of men who are not Trust Fund Babies or raised in the most ideal circumstances, your 30s are usually going to be when you start to hit your stride. I am a few years away from 35 and just turn 32 in a few months so that is where I come from. Generally, your 30s are when you start to truly become more comfortable in your own skin if you did a lot of things right.
And you get more focused.
One thing I have found in my 30s is that it is a “Now or Never” mentality in terms of Game. Back when I was in my 20s, I went on dates just to chat with women and go on dates. I went out just to drink, sometimes even binge drink, with friends and not really practice Game in a productive way. I would be more into partying and finding acceptance than trying to actually get good with women.
When I hit my 30s, I realized that soon, I am going to actually look old. I am going to age out of the market for some of the women in their prime in their 20s, at least here in the Western World. I am going to have less energy with age. My testosterone levels will go down by a lot when I am in my 40s. My hunger to get laid a lot will also decrease. My hair will thin more and more until I go bald.
So I got serious.
There is a reason why the Black Pill Forums and Community are filled with teenagers and men in their 20s. You feel like you have all the time in the world to mess around and just live in theory-land. However, the smart guys at that age are hitting the gym, maxing out their looks, and talking to women. They are getting that hunger to get laid a lot out of their system fast and then focus on other things.
Once you hit 30, you realize that you have to get to it fast.
If you have not gotten that high lay count or slept around a lot, well it is now or never. You realize that with every passing year, it is going to get a lot harder to get that high lay count. Life is going to get in the way more. So you become more focused.
You actually do put in the work. You take lifting more seriously. You take your diet more seriously. You take Game more seriously. You realize that the time for messing around is over. Then the results start to slowly come and you become a better you.
Can you compete with Chad or a peak guy in his 20s?
So let’s say we were to get a guy in his 30s who was just adamant about getting his. He didn’t get laid a lot in college and he wants to make up for lost time. He wants to compete with the Chads out there and such. Can you? The answer is yes but it is going to take a lot of work.
If you are a Ronaldo, Brad Pitt, or Zayn? Yeah you can run right through them. However, most of us are not these guys.
So let’s say you max out your value as a guy in his 30s. This means lifting, gym, diet, looks, style, Game, and all of that. Can you outdo the lay count of a Chad in his 20s when it comes to hot girls? I have seen it done. However, a few things need to happen. You must:
Live in a major world class city (NYC, London, etc.)
Be willing to dedicate time and resources to your Game Life
Use your unfair advantages like traveling and access to higher end venues
Work hard for the right logistics
Clean your mind up of all Black Pill garbage and nonsense
Only when you do that, you can make up for some of that lost time. I have seen and known guys who have done it but once again, much easier said than done.
But most importantly, you have to believe you can.
I don’t exactly hate the Chads and was friends with a few. However, as I progressed in my 20s in NYC, I realized a trend. I was getting a lot of girls they could not. I was even getting former sorority girls who were tired of these guys. Sure, Chad has looks and they do matter a lot, which is why I encourage all men to max out their looks, but they only help to an extent.
You find that a disadvantage that guys who peaked early have is that they never really had to learn much Game because a lot of the Game was done for them via things like Greek Life. So this leads to a lot of men hating life after college if they peaked in college. It is also why so many guys who peak in college settle down fast after it if not towards the end of it.
Most of all, you have now. Regardless of your age, put in the work!